tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1801483473113363785.post240044721700375263..comments2023-05-12T05:10:20.941-04:00Comments on Raven Crowking's Nest: Even More on Fudging: Honest Answersravencrowkinghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09315630554847698555noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1801483473113363785.post-83126749571715118582014-06-21T14:08:41.528-04:002014-06-21T14:08:41.528-04:00It's weird that so much fudging is going on wi...It's weird that so much fudging is going on with Pathfinder DMs. It really does seem common in that culture (with, of course, some valiant holdouts that are vehemently opposed to it). At the same time, on the player's side, every rule is measured carefully and charop abounds. Hours are spent perusing optional classes in extra books and discussing the best feats to pick and what tiers classes are. If they only knew that they're only boxing against their own shadow since so many GMs change hitpoints on the fly or even change or misrepresent die rolls.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1801483473113363785.post-52781785223112744572014-05-30T13:35:27.793-04:002014-05-30T13:35:27.793-04:00"if the players are aware of the GM's fud..."if the players are aware of the GM's fudging it detracts from the game." I couldn't agree more. I was talking to my DM after a session and he revealed to me that the only reason we survived was that he fudged a bunch of rolls. It completely pissed me off and put a taint on the game. If you don't want to TPK us then don't design a session were there is a real possibility of TPK. <br /><br />And as you say, if you have an idea for how many HP Your Troll should have (Min or Max) then why are you rolling? If it's too low you fudge if it's too high you fudge. Just give the troll the HP you want and don't leave it to "chance."The Shadowplayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15290750258778801256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1801483473113363785.post-35299048249497051072014-05-30T13:34:08.075-04:002014-05-30T13:34:08.075-04:00Fudging dice rolls is weird. If there are unaccept...Fudging dice rolls is weird. If there are unacceptable possibilities then don't roll, pick a number (or adjust roll so unacceptable results are not possible). Dice are specifically for RANDOMNESS. Fudging dice rolls is analogous to bulimia.<br /><br />By definition fudging doesn't have any place in old-school games. Part of (my) OS definition is randomness, bad stuff happens. But for something like heroic style pathfinder it is needed. Common for me is to double or quadruple big bad's hitpoints after players do enough damage to kill them in the first round. Cause it wouldn't be fun if every battle (esp against the big enemy) was a pushover. Challenge is fun. And Pathfinder is such a broken exponential power system DMs get caught pants down and need to fudge like that *sometimes*.Norman J. Harman Jr.https://www.blogger.com/profile/01319655075997712313noreply@blogger.com